(This story is ongoing and continuing to unfold, please bear with me and check back for updates)
What an intense day of games in Raleigh, North Carolina, and what an interesting and awful twist to end it with
Here's what happened.....
After the final games this evening, though CURSE won, there will be no first and second place awarded. Both teams were disqualified. The full final standings are as follows:
- N/A
- N/A
- Team Dynamic - $20,000
- Orbit Gaming - $12,000
- CLG Black - $4,000
- Monomaniac Ferus - $4,000
Photo courtesy of glocks4interns on reddit |
"And#MLGRaleigh is getting intense - crazy games all around, tense SC2 action, LoL going ARAM, and MK9 getting heated!" - MLG on twitter
Lee Chen from MLG had this to say on twitter about the state of the disqualification. It appears both Curse and Dignitas had conspired together to split the prize money.
Shortly after the above video was released, Curse sent out another video apologizing again for the ARAM game in the final and stating that all other accusations are false. Here is that video:
Currently MLG is planning to award the $40,000 prize pool to the teams that placed 3rd, 4th, 5th, and 6th. This means that Dynamic will now will the $20,000. Orbit Gaming will receive $12,000. CLG Black and Monomaniac Ferus will each receive $4,000. This was just tweeted out by Adam Apicella (MLG):
"To be clear here folks, the Collusion had nothing to do with the ARAM. CRS/DIG conspired to split prize money. http://mlg.to/SFulSk" - Lee Chen on twitterThis action by these teams, however, caused them to be disqualified from the standings. Here's what MLG had to say about the incident:
"MLG regrets to announce that we will not be awarding 1st or 2nd Place finishes for the Summer Championship League of Legends Event. We have determined that there was collusion between the two final teams, Curse NA and Team Dignitas. This is in clear violation of both the letter and spirit of MLG’s Official Pro Circuit Conduct Rules: “competitors may not intentionally Forfeit a Game or conspire to manipulate Rankings or Brackets.” As such, both teams have been disqualified, and no placements or prize money will be awarded." - MLG official statementAfter the match up between Dynamic and Orbit, which Dynamic won 2-1, both teams will still receive their awards and circuit points that they earned for 3rd and 4th place, respectively. A video coming out from Curse Elementz about what happened with the disqualification is here on Gamespot. Curse put this video out as a public apology:
Shortly after the above video was released, Curse sent out another video apologizing again for the ARAM game in the final and stating that all other accusations are false. Here is that video:
"MLG will award the full prize money ($40,000) to teams ranked 3, 4, 5, 6." - MrMLGAdam's twitterThough, for Dynamic's NintendudeX, it's not the same. He tweeted this shortly after finding out his team gets the money for first place:
"dunno much bout all that MLG drama. i guess that means we technically placed highest, but still third place in all hearts." - NintendudeX on twitterOn a lighter note, Deman had a grand time trying to cast an ARAM finals game, which he did a surprisingly good job!! He had this to say after the game:
"I have just cast a ARAM final, yes that actually just happened.http://www.majorleaguegaming.com/live#lolRedBeard, who is the VP of eSports at Riot Games, posted HERE stating that both teams admitted to the colluding. This win at Raleigh would have given Curse 400 more circuit points and Dignitas 200 circuit points. If this weekend is telling at all, next weekend during the North American regionals should be a good one.#leagueoflegends" - Deman on twitter
Fun fact: Today is Deman's birthday. You should go to his twitter and tell him happy birthday.
can u put up the scores for the other games?
ReplyDeleteActually curse did'nt win and dignitas did'nt get second because they played and aram http://www.majorleaguegaming.com/news/an-important-message-regarding-mlg-summer-championship-league-of-legends/
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DeleteYes I just read that. I'm updating it now
Deleteand here Seranaya thought her day of updates was over.
DeleteNOPE!
ITS NEVER OVER IN THE LIFE OF AN ESPORTS WRITER!
Deletedoes seem that it was more on their decision to split the money rather than the aram, but its all speculation at this point.
DeleteNice of Riot and Mlg to force a meta and use a weak excuse to back it up.
ReplyDeletePlaying summoners rift compared to aram is not forcing the meta...
Deleteyou should know it wasn´t because they didn´t follow the current meta...
DeleteIN EVERY SPORT OR COMPETITION YOU CAN´T ARRANGE THE RESULTS OF THE MATCHES OR WINNINGS
this isn´t a weak excuse and you are very wrong
Surely what map they play on has nothing to do with the metagame; it's part of the format for the tournament. Asking people to play on Summoner's Rift is not the same as forcing them to follow a certain lane set-up or team composition. You can't just play a football match on a basketball court because 'both teams said it's okay' - if it's a tournament then everyone has to play every game on the same footing.
DeleteWhat teams do WITHIN the game (team composition, lane matchups, all that 'meta' stuff) is up to them, but I think all matches should be on the same map for them to count towards a tournament of this standing.
But anyway, like Sneaky says, what got them thrown out was that they were manipulating the results, not that they were playing a different game type.
Ah okay, I just realised they played the ARAM on SR after all and not on Proving Grounds >.< My bad.
DeleteBut still, picking random champions implies not doing your best to win, which I'm pretty sure is against the rules of most sporting competitions.
I think it's absolutely correct if they both agree they don't want to show things and just roll something less spectacular to decide for the first place.
DeleteThe problem was with price obviously.
It was clear that they were both trying to win that ARAM game. Therefore, the game was neither thrown, nor did they try to fix any results. This is essentially Riot and MLG saying, "Oh no, they're not playing the meta! Better disqualify them!" In that case, why not disqualify teams for lane switching too? It's not standard meta, so it's pretty obvious based on their decision that it shouldn't be allowed.
ReplyDeleteThis was a stupid decision. If I were Nyjacky, I would not be apologizing for anything. They broke no rules and did nothing wrong.
how can you explain they weren´t splitting the prize money?
DeleteIf they weren´t the attitude form the teams would be different, completely different.
If they agreed to play ARAM and just that it would be ok....no meta forcing involve here
"broke no rules"
Deleteuhm. Did you actually READ the post? It was clearly stated that they broke one of the rules.
Seems like they decided to play ARAM and enjoyed it so much they wanted to split the money, so for MLG to disqualify them is a complete disgrace and meta forcing.
DeleteI don't understand why splitting the prize money is wrong? It gets split amongst the team members and I would guess sponsors as well. By your logic, this would be wrong too, but it happens all the time.
DeleteWhat rule did they break? Hmm? Care to answer? I think I explained why; simply trying to win the game immediately voids the notion that they were quote "intentionally Forfeit(ing) a Game or conspir(ing) to manipulate Rankings or Brackets." /end quote.
DeleteI dont get how splitting money is a bad thing o.O they won its their money do w/e they want
DeleteIt was because Curse needed the extra points from first to move up in the rankings for next season/tournament, but Dignitas only needed second. To ensure this happened, they agreed that Dignitas would let Curse win, but the teams would split the cash prize 50/50. This means Dignitas threw the series, which nullifies it.
DeleteCurse doesnt need the Circuit points... it doesnt change their ranking.
DeleteThis is complete bullshit xD
If dig won on the other hand would make more sense but as of now its bullshit =/
They broke the rule of conspiring to control the outcome.
DeleteThe motive doesn't matter because they tried to control who won and who lost instead of competing normally.
It's that simple.
If they had refused to apologized and both teams said they only agreed to play ARAM, then it would have been within the boundaries of the rules. But they didn't, they admitted to the offense and apologized.
And no, the second video denying the accusations doesn't mean anything, because they didn't man up and say that to begin with.
DeleteDo you guys not understand that splitting prize money between teams is against almost every tournaments rules? It's not about the ARAM, they were not disqualified for that during the tournament and MLG let them do the game when they could have stopped it and made them do general SR Pick/Bans. They were only disqualified after MLG found out they were planning to split the prize money between the two teams. Just because they say on a video (after getting caught by MLG) that they never intended on doing it doesn't mean anything. Human beings lie when they get caught (not saying they did or didn't or that I know anything about what actually happened, just saying that because they made a video that said they didn't do it doesn't mean they didn't.)
DeleteHow dare they have fun in a tournament!
ReplyDeletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXOpt86zVJ0&feature=player_embedded
ReplyDeleteCurse apologising
That's so lame. It would appear that Curse is apologizing over the aram, they said nothing to the extent of purposely losing a game. Or did they somewhere else? In the end, it should be up to the winner to do as they wish with the money, right? Was it said anywhere that either team intentionally threw a game? Iono. For most of what I saw it, it seemed pretty leveled. Well, if there was some behind the scenes work, then MLG made a good call, but I find the whole situation lame. <333 SERANAYA! :DD
ReplyDeleteIn the RTSGuru article it was stated that Dignitas, in the collusion, was going to throw the game for Curse to win.
DeleteYessir, for Curse to get the Circuit points and then for them to split the money.
DeleteI see. That part completely avoided me. Thanks. Does this have any affect on regionals at all?
DeleteCurse doesnt need the Circuit points... it doesnt change their ranking.
DeleteThis is complete bullshit xD
If dig won on the other hand would make more sense but as of now its bullshit =/
Actually for the ladder to change Dignitas had to win in order to surpass CLG prine for 2nd. With Curse winning Dig still had 3rd and Curse still had 4th with no other tournament out there to change it. Makes no sense.
DeleteThat aram was fun to watch. BUT IMO I don't think they should have done a final like that.
ReplyDeleteAgree. I thought they played the ARAM just for show at first.
DeleteBut ppl shouldn't throw their anger at either team just for that. ARAM is still a game, and not against any rules, as long as both teams are on the same page.
The big problem here is conspiracy.
I await the evidence to support the collusion allegations. The ARAM was awesome and if that is all the evidence they have of match fixing then righteous rage will fall. If there is actual evidence of fixing the finals for circuit points then perhaps the butthurt will fade and they have been rightfully punished. I really hope some full releases are forthcoming.
ReplyDeleteI MEAN SERIOUSLY! Would it have been better to start a match just too surrender@20? Any tournament can be molded if the players would choose to do so. So what they decided to split the winnings. Watching them play out a honest match instead of watching them throw a game just to get it over is more entertaining.
ReplyDeleteYou mad your system is broke? QQ
I think people are missing the point. Yes, so what they agreed to split the winnings.
ReplyDeleteThe thing is they agreed to fix the points and the money was just what Curse bought Dignitas off with.
I mean if they really wanted to split the money as just friends they could have done that with no one knowing but fixing the game? Not cool.
If they indeed tried to manipulate the outcome of the final in order to have the Circuit Points split up more convenient I understand the disqualification. If it's just the agreement of splitting up the prize money, I don't. This is just like both of those teams saying "We all played a great tournament and think that it is fair that we both earn the game amount of cash".
ReplyDeleteIF the disqualification is because of the ARAM this is completely ridiculous. You can't disqualify someone for something that isn't abuse or glitch using. Maybe for a tournament final it was trolling, but it was Best of 5, wasn't it? For me it was nice entertainment. They did something astonishing: They brought up something nobody ever expected and they'll be remembered in the history of LoL gaming for that. Unfortunately they will also be remembered for being the first two teams that got disqualified in a MLG final.
Hellooo.
ReplyDeleteFirst time poster, longtime lurker.
First off, this is a massive shame. E-Sports is never going to be taken seriously with backdoor dealings like this. Ensuring that your mates on a different team can definitely play in the next season by throwing a game isn't exactly sporting. I know people are saying "it's their money, they can do what they want" but that's not really what I take issue with. It's ensuring Curse get to play next Season when they have no right to that security.
The whole ARAM thing doesn't bother me, if they agreed on that then that's all cool as far as I'm concerned. It's just having match fixtures and conspiring with each other for a desired effect like this in such a young sport (LoL is only in it's second competitive series now) is just going to leave the door open for other MOBA's to get in on the action. Anyone contemplating competitive gaming in any serious capacity is going to see this as a massive incentive to just go back to Tetris or whatever. It's a pity and I think MLG definitely made the right call. Don't put up with this crap. You wouldn't put up with it in Football (soccer, I'm European), Tennis, or any other sport of any value. Shame on Dig, shame on Curse and props to MLG.
Just my 2 cents.
Couldn't agree more, pretty much the same view on the subject as me, which I pointed out on Facebook already. Sadly, most people do not realize that e-sports arena is meant to be serious and won't be considered as such if situations like these will go unpunished. Good call, MLG, it's freaking Major League Gaming Championship, not some friendly match... What other teams should think about this? So much work put in effort to earn a high place... for what? Only to watch the "winners" make a comedy from the tournament? While I'm not blaming them, it wasn't intended to be immature or unsportsmanlike, it's good MLG reacted in such way, showed that even because it's "only" a video game, e-sport is a serious matter.
DeleteWay to go, MLG!
Ensure what? Do you follow lol e sport and the ladder rankings? With Curse winning they are EXACTLY where they were before this event. Even with dignitas win Curse would still have been 4th. The only way aranging that would be beneficial would have beeb with Dig winning and getting 2nd from CLG prime.
DeleteMLG, and any other sporting organisation, will disqualify for ANY collusion (points, cash or otherwise) because it gives them a bad reputation; If two teams aren't fighting as hard as they can to win, it makes the game boring, people less likely to watch it, and the sporting organisation loses money.
ReplyDeleteThe ARAMing could actually be an attendance booster, something interesting and controversial. I doubt they were disqualified just for that.
Watching League of Legends news and finding out that its always these childish tournaments instead of Riot Games releasing Syndra on the PBE is truly a daily nightmare.
ReplyDeletethey should get the prize before letting others know their money spliting plan
ReplyDeleteAaaaalso;
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujijaucr4Yw&list=UUABL3iLvEC6XRRz3y8w1fOg&index=1&feature=plcp
Curse completely denying any collusion other than agreeing to ARAM. Could be a load of hogwash but thought it'd be wise to keep it all updated.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujijaucr4Yw
ReplyDeleteWhere is the source for "Apparently, the teams were going to allow Curse to win for the circuit points"? None of the official quotes above does give any hint in this direction. If anything is blatantly unprofessional about all this story, it's neither MLG or the two teams involved, but the author of this article launching unsupported allegations ... BTW, two teams that collude to fix a match RESULT would clearly know this is not in order beforehand (as opposed to splitting the prize pool, which is debatable) and would not probably play ARAM in order to draw anyone's attention.
ReplyDeleteCome on ppl, they got disqualified becouse Riot dont want to give away the 1st prize.
ReplyDeletewhat other reson would be there to make the first 2 place N/A?
They did give away the first and second prize money to the 3rd and 4th places. It's right in the post. Please read before saying something so stupid.
DeleteSeriously guys.. Of course they get disqualified becuase they are planning to get more circuit points. It like the badminton at the Olympics all over again where several teams were disqulified because they played bad, just so they could meet easier teams
ReplyDeleteToo bad that makes no sense. If they were doing this for circuit points like people are claiming, they would have conspired DIG to win but instead, you guys are saying they conspired Curse to win? Curse winning the circuit points changes nothing in the rankings
DeleteBut it would ensure Curse a top 12 spot next season no matter what happens the rest of the season.
DeleteHey guys, I don't know where to post this, so I'll post it here. I saw a new feature in the PBE, refund credits. When you go to the store and Purchases section, you can refund skins and champions.
ReplyDeleteThe ARAM shouldn't have had anything to do with the disqualifications, especially if both teams had a mutual agreement of what was going on. I personally enjoyed seeing something different for a change. Plus the fact that both teams were having more fun in that one match than at any other point in the tournament shouldn't be a problem. People cry about them not "taking the finals seriously," but why would that matter? It's not up to the public or even Riot to decided what kind of match they should play or how they should play it. The fact that it was a 5v5 on Summoners Rift should be the only thing controlled.
ReplyDeleteAnd the fact that the teams wanted to "split the prize money" should be up to them. If they win it they should be able to do whatever they want with it, they earned it. Now if a game was purposely thrown or anything like that then yes a DQ was in order but from my perspective everything looked like it could go either way, with all of the matches.
Respect to the both teams for 1st and 2nd, and for having fun.
Yours truly, Shamtactics.
I feel the whole issue was shameful.
ReplyDeleteThe whole idea of the tourney was for people to see top tier LOL play, and they open with an ARAM game. How would people respond if they tuned into the Super Bowl, only to see the teams playing touch football or flag football or another game entierly? They would be livid. While I do enjoy watching Pro-level ARAM, that's not what they signed up for for this tourney. That makes ESports as a genre look foolish.
And rigging a game so one team has enough points to proceed is blatant cheating.
I'd honestly like to see Riot scapegoat both teams and just plain drop them both from this seasons roster.
Don't wanna follow their rules? Then you don't play in their tourney.
Watching an ARAM was so refreshing after days of the same old meta in different variations. These teams haven't had a lot of "fun" during the tournament and then they get punished for having it, how silly is that?
ReplyDeleteIt's MLG's rules, so they can punish as they see fit, but I think they were in the wrong on this one. Sometimes it's nice to see something different.
Ugh, forgive me. I forgot that this was my old Japanese class account. >.<
DeleteArraging the results of a match previously, wether or not it's about the money or anything is wrong, if both teams would have decided the money split saying like "we decided to share the prize because both teams did good and blah blah.." it would have been a good move, but the thing they did it behind the public and as a treat apart from MLG was bad.
ReplyDeleteAnd above all, all tournaments have rules if you want to participate, follow them.
ARAM was a nice and enternainment move we all ejoyed that.
This was sad day for Esports, i didn't expect to see corruption in Esports at this level i thought this could happen in real sports :/, my expectations have dropped.
ReplyDeleteThe director of MLG came in after the ARAM and told the two teams to not dare to play ARAM again....
ReplyDeleteAnyone there noticed this as well as those that paid attention during stream as the moderators repated it.
Therefore the whole thing looks much like a punishment for playing the ARAM.
The corruption thing is just to discredit the two teams and shut them up.
ReplyDeleteThat way they prevent that the teams complain against any action against them coz of the ARAM they played.
Smart move from MLG to regain control of the situation.
But I think it will backfire when its gets out that the teams played fair and competitive but agreed to make a little fun by going ARAM.
Did you see the game. If not go watch the ARAM.
ReplyDeleteThe picks are not dump. maybe not very experienced to ARAM meta but not bad.
And they tried to win - both teams.
Near the End Dignitas could have destroyed nexus but they draged the game to kill more players and continue playing the ARAM. But they were completly save to to so - curse was nowhere near of having a chance to win as Dignitas had a huge tower/inhibitor advantage.
Finally the destroyed the nexus after an ace so there was no letting curse win. nor was curse giving up they just seemed rather ARAM unexperienced.
the following 4 games were full competitive.
Aren't the pros the ones who dictate how the game plays? If I'm not mistaken, it isn't up to MLG or Riot to decide how the game is played.
ReplyDeleteNormally the pros mutually agree to a meta game, this time it was a mutual agreement to play an ARAM. What's different? What if this was decided to be the new meta shift? Aren't we encouraged to deviate from the meta? I guess it's not allowed after all.
you're mistaken.
DeleteDoes no one understand what meta means? I have seen the word meta thrown around like pies are thrown to a room full of starving fat people. People find the world cool and know it means something. ARAM is not a meta is it a game mode. Tanky DPS is a meta. A meta spawns from using the best known composition at that time in a game be it items or lane comps. Now yes the players enforce it, but they creators also influence the meta by the items and champions they release. Now that being said. If you go into a Counter Strike 5v5 team death match tournament. What are you going to see? Ok now is it up to the players to choose say a 5v5 base defense match (you know the one with the bomb) No that would not be allowed because it is not a meta. It is a GAME MODE. ARAM was breaking the set up of the tournament which other MLG does not allow unless they give you the choice. Which they did not in any LoL tournament. As for anything about them throwing the game. There is not a good way to tell that. If you know what a long con is then you will understand why. People can still make things looks close and still be throwing the game. As for if they did or not I have no idea as for none of us can have any idea unless you are some awesomely trained facial lie detector that plays league of legends. Games can be competitive and be thrown. If you don't believe that then you have never been sneaky a day in your life. Take care and learn what the hell Meta means.
DeleteI understand what the word meta means, I was joking about it becoming the new meta.
DeleteBut what I am saying is that there is no 'rule' that states that every game must be played in the usual AP, AD, Tank, Jungler and Support meta. There is nothing that states that the game must be played in such a way that every champion must be in different lanes. There's nothing that says your champion can't be randomised. There is no rule dictating how the game must be played. The only constant is that there is two teams of five playing on Summoner's Rift, nothing else is constant, everything else is a variable. So why can't they play ARAM? Because we don't expect them to? What if every team decides that they'll ARAM every match in the next MLG? There's nothing saying they can't.
Exactly. In fact, I've noticed that some ADs going mid can actually be FAR BETTER than an AP mid. Example: AD Twisted Fate is NOT fun to lane against with any kind of straight AP mage.
DeleteBesides this, it may just be the fact that it is normal games I play in <30, but sometimes an assassin and AD can easily beat a support and AD. I've had some fun games as Support/mage built Oriana with a Jax bot vs. a normal meta lane.
@Graham
DeleteYou're right; the meta can change and people can do what they like. The problem arises when the teams 'agree' on what they're doing and construct their own 'rules' for the game.
If a team genuinely thinks that picking five random champions and storming down mid lane is the best way to win, then hell, they can do it. (Team BLACK did a 5-mid composition against TSM in the third game of their match at the MLG summer arena.) But as soon as you lean across the table and say to the other team, "Hey, guys, you have to do this too. And no-one is allowed in x, y, and z areas, agreed?" then it stops being a question of metagaming and becomes a different game mode, one in which both teams are not doing their best to win (because if they were, someone would just walk out of mid lane and go farm top and win, like TSM did against BLACK.)
Teams do not 'agree' on meta of 1 top, 1 jungle, etc. Most teams play like that because it's become the 'standard'/'best' way to play the game, but there's nothing to stop one team doing something crazy if they think it'll prove more effective. But you cannot have an agreement with the other team to only do certain things or go in certain lanes. A metagame and a set of rules are not the same thing.
TL;DR:
Teams don't 'agree' on a meta. Both teams 'agreeing' to go ARAM is not okay because it's based on an unofficial agreement between two teams and involves neither team doing everything in their power to win.
The dances around baron they made during game 2,3,4,5 proof that they were playing competitive.
ReplyDeleteIf they had made an agreement before than they would play like that. The gamestyle is just both teams trying but being cautious like they both want the win.
And the argument that they faked makes no sense because if they think that far head than they would not make something unconventional as playing ARAM.
But play down all 5 game or maybe even only 3-4. like 3:1 won games to make it unsuspicious
plz point ou this is cuz of coolusin and not the aram
ReplyDeleteIt's "Innocent until proven guilty," not "Guilty until proven Innocent." The onus is on MLG and Riot to furnish proof of the collusion. Proof as in Audio logs, text logs and things of that nature. Pure speculation is worthless. Until this happens MLG and Riot are in the wrong and the two teams were robbed. These are the facts of this situation.
ReplyDeleteWith that being said, I wouldn't be surprised to see Curse and Dignitas grabbing a lawyer or two.
There is "collusion" simply by agreeing beforehand to play an ARAM. That being said, I don't believe it is DQ worthy. I'd like to see some proof of further wrong doing, otherwise it just looks like MLG is throwing their weight around because they aren't happy about the ARAM.
ReplyDeleteMLG needs to show proof or gtfo
ReplyDeleteI don't know why this is even an argument. From what I've read the teams were colluding to fix results split the prize money. You find me one sport where teams doing that aren't punished. Both teams have come forward and admitted to it which kinda blows away the "innocent until proven guilty" argument some people seem to be pushing.
ReplyDeleteExcept Curse is denying any allegations of collusion. I'd also like to see where Curse and Dignitas "admitted" to anything. They confessed? Great. Where's the proof of their confession? Conspicuously absent. It still falls under "Innocent until proven Guilty." For all you know, MLG and Riot could just be saying that to make their case seem more legitimate.
DeleteSo, does anyone have a video of the ARAM final sitting anywhere?
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3Hi8KeT8No
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