Recap of mentioned changes:
Corki
- Increased cooldown of Valkyrie.
- Increased cooldown on the missile generation time of Missile Barrage.
Diana
- Lowered base health regen.
- Lowered Damage and AP Ratio on Crescent strike.
Evelynn
- Dark Frenzy cool down time reduced and now allows Eve to pass through minions.
- Her stealth has a smaller detection range.
- Rank two and three of Agony's Embrace has a lower cool down.
Ezreal
- Reducing width of Essence Flux.
- Essence Flux AP Ratio increased.
- Lowered mana cost on Mystic Shot
Graves
Items
- Lowered attack speed bonus on Quick draw.
- Slightly lower base attack speed.
- Abyssal Scepter aura range reduced.
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ReplyDeleteWow that is a huge abyssal nerf. Also Darius...
ReplyDeletewill you guys leave that darius alone? if you can't counter him, try harder
Deletehave you stop for a moment, and though "hey, if everybody has a problem with darius, maybe its because he actually has a problem" ?
DeleteEverybody has a problem with Darius? Really? You must be new with the game.
DeleteTry out Kayle, she smashes him
DeleteI've never had a problem with a Darius :P And oi OP, Riot have stated that they will change Darius' ult to make it less annoying for both teams - Neither a nerf nor a buff. So the Darius change you wish for will happen soon, so just hush up in the mean time...
Deletemy Cho'gath counters almost all the Darius i have faced in top, just freeze the lane near your tower and farm until lvl 5, you can harass then with W and Q. (i max W first) also put an early lvl in E and when you're lvl 6, you can just nuke Darius without retaliation because of your silence and knockup. I run Ignite and Exhaust and its overkill for Darius.
DeleteIt's not that Darius is hard to counter. It's just that no matter how much better than him you do in lane, he can just waltz into a team fight and press r to kill steal thrice.
DeleteOh, and Katarina just wont waltz into a team fight and press to penta kill steal, right?
DeletePeople have a problem with Darius because he is just too manly for them to handle and that annoys them.
press R*
DeleteIf you want to not lose to Darius in lane you need to pick up health over armor. But still pick up armor.
DeleteYou also need to pick up high mobility champions if that isn't enough.
And if Darius is coming into teamfights, underfarmed or underfed even, and slamming people with his ulti, or killstealing, then that means you were already losing the teamfight anyways.
Guys, It's cool for you if you can counter Darius. But you only see it at your point of vision. I introduced a friend of mine to League of Legends befor Darius patch, he loved it and played it alot, but after darius came out he hated it, because every darius bashed like the whole team. What I want to say with that is that you (who can play LoL better/good) can laugh and act like douches if you see someone who is maybe not that good at the game and has really a big problem with that champion. The only point of view you know is yours, and all you say (with not even think about the others) is something like "haha darius easy to counter LOLZ U NOOB"
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@Razvan sure Kat can get the kills too. HOWEVER she doesn't deal true damage in one blow but magical damage over time - Meaning you can flash away and migrate damage with magic resistance. Talk about comparing apples and zebras dude. He is frustrating that is a fact. As a Darius player it's super fun but in the same second you srustrate the players in the enemy team. That's not a good design and it should be changed.
DeleteAnd no I didn't say anything about him being op/up or whatever - He's frustrating THAT'S the main point here.
Exactly. You say kat can do the same, but it's actually totally different. Her ult is channeled and not true damage.
DeleteDarius is unfun because beating him in lane does not mitigate his execution ability too much. He's not OP/UP, just annoying and makes what should be fun not.
Darius is kinda like yi, in that he can completly kill a team ( especially newer players) but the more you play against him the less of a threat he becomes. eventually people even stop picking him. so if he is ever on the free week again try him out thats the best way of learning his weaknesses and limitations so that next time you know when to attack him.
DeleteSo Graves and Corki nerf, Ezreal buff. Yup that's Riot.
ReplyDeleteWhy not its not the prob that Ez already is damn strong and has the highest win ratio in nearly all Elo.ratings.... ;D
DeleteWere gonna see like 100000 more pulse fire now!
they did right.
Deletewhat makes ezreal strong is his W.
nerfing W and buffing Q is a way to get people to max first Q over W.
early game is all about mana control
Well it's pretty obvious that Riot has some fav champs since they buff them non-stop, ez is one of them.
DeleteLOL you know who is ez, search for the owner and employees of riot.One called Tryndamere last name and the other is called EZ the first name
DeleteExcept that Tryn is a pure pubstomp champ.
Delete"has the highest win ratio in nearly all Elo.ratings"
DeleteMaybe because only actually good players play with Ezreal because he requires something called "skill"...
People are still going to max W first in lane. The attack speed buff/debuff wasn't touched just the damage of the skill and the width of the shot. I didn't even know that the width of the skill shot was like that. I'm glad that is getting fixed.
DeleteEh.. I'm a bit disappointed that the width of Ezreal's W is getting decreased. That'll be really annoying for AP Ezreal(the only Ezreal I play), and I don't really think a .1 ratio increase is enough for that. But I guess I'll have to actually play it to find out.
ReplyDeleteI'm looking forward to playing Eve after this patch, though. Hopefully she'll be better.. I still think she needs some base stat increases, but maybe this'll be enough and she won't need it. Maybe.
I don't see why you should be dissapointed. As long as you've been playing Ezreal you've had an unfair yet also unseen advantage over other players with his W. This brings a more fair level to people getting hit by it. It's not a nerf by any means, it's a balance.
DeleteGrammar you learned at Yoda anon guy - Grow up please or gtfo, thanks a lot ;)
Deletelol... they're nerfing graves to the ground, that sounds like riot... i was gonna buy him even after the 6 nerfs he got consecutively but this was the drop that filled the cup for me.
ReplyDelete"OMG, they nerf him to the ground, he is useless now" - Bullshit. His changes are not very, very big and it gives a slightly less efective gameplay with this champion. I think that it is a small nerf, Graves players shouldn't be scared too much...
DeleteGraves is one of the top three ranged carries by a fairly large margin. The other two are also getting some balance changes. Why should he be any different? His kit is stupid good, he can function well on any team, and he's incredibly safe for how dangerous he is.
DeleteBot graves is a common use in ranked/tournaments, riot tries to make things easy for other AD Carries and to variate the picks
DeleteGraves didn't need attack speed when he just blast your face off with a buck shot
ReplyDeleteThey really need to nerf all non ultimate blink abilities.
No, they don't need to do this... because only a small amount of champions have blink abilities.
DeleteI don't think I'm ever going to get my Leona buff. :/
ReplyDeleteLeona is the QUEEN, doesn't matter if she is played as support or solo top(like I love playing her) she will rock the boat hard so she doesn't need buffs.
Deleteyup, she is already flawless.
DeleteLeona is perfect as she already is, there's no need for buffs or nerfs.
DeleteThe only thing I'd like is a new skin for Leona,
Agree, a new skin for the QUEEN of the CC would be awesome.
DeleteId love to see buffs to leona that dont effect her supporting, shes a very strong CC kill lane support, just like blitzcrank and alistar. But she has nowere else to go, its support or nothing, if they say maybe let her consume her own passive (at a reduced amount) she could jungle or top lane wuite well. Or some other buff to increase her laneing choices.
DeleteShe is a protector, she was designed as such, I doubt they will ever buff her enough to serve other lanes.
DeleteThey mentioned not giveing her solid ap ratios out of fear of makeing ap alistar 2.0 after the season 1 fiasco.
DeleteLeona does not need any buffs she is an amazing support as is and my personal favorite.
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ReplyDeletehello, i'm korea lol user and i analysis this patch preview.
maybe Abyssal Scepter aura range is 600, i measure that.
link is korea lol forum. thanks.
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Ofc another ezreal buff ... Gj riot ! --'
ReplyDeleteI find it hilarious that after every tournament, if an item or champion is used a lot. Surprisingly they get tweaks, nerfs, changes etc.
ReplyDeleteI love all the sarcastic and borderline-hateful comments on Riot. They actually put effort into keeping the gamë fresh and as balanced as they can. Bear in mind the sheer volume of characters they have and the work beyond the characters created.
ReplyDeleteThey give you a patch preview for you to hear their reasoning for some changes. These changes aren't indefinite, if turned out to be a bad one, they will revert the change or alter skillsets and base stats.
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So, please... Take it easy with the "D: gj Riot!"
Agreed, also, LoL is a 'free' game which some people seem to forget from time to time, they put a lot of effort into each game and balancing over 100 champions all equally isn't simple so ofc there's going to be bad decisions in patches, just calm down people
DeletePicks and bans in major tourneys are around 66% of te full champion roster, dota, hon, street fighter 4, any competitive game i can think of dont even come close to such a large % of the roster worth a damn in competitive play. They know what their doing, the % of champions used in tournaments is slowly increaseing with each and every patch.
DeleteDarius will never get nerfed. Believe me or not, hes literally balanced in high elo. Has anyone ever used Kayle against him? Practically its the best option to watch Darius players cry. Countering him is a breeze: hes a melee champ that has zero potential to escape, the key is to kite him to victory.
ReplyDeleteThe "l2p and counter darius with kayle"-guys are not completely right i think. Problem is that u can shut down his laning and kite but if he isnt total noob and sees hes against kayle he lets her push and farms under tower. No problem with q and w AA-reset. Then he comes back big (even if somehow outfarmed) in teamfights and gets his equip-> gg
DeleteThis Kayle-argument isnt totally wrong but she pushes lane hard and that often isnt good.
I think that "l2p- counter him"-guys are all quite nooby dariusplyers that dont want their nobrainer to be nerfed. He is too strong and anti-fun. Riot knows that and will hit him hard (maybe after some more dariusses are sold to newbies who like nubstomping)
900 ELO detected.
DeleteJust because people say learn to play against Darius, that does not make them Darius players. Jeez, you people are brain dead, I swear.
DeleteSo what you're saying is.
DeletePeople that Darius counters: Everyone
People that counter Darius: Kayle
Darius is hardly ever picked in major tournaments were the best of the best compete for money. If darius was as OP as the babies claim hed be picked all the time but hes not. Id like to think riot balances for the highest skill levels and not noobs getting crushed by a snowballin ultimate. Hes getting changes NOT BIFFS NOT NERFS changes to make him crush noobs less while simultaniously be more desirable by players in elos above 900.
DeleteGragas will never get nerfed. Believe me or not, he's literally balanced in high elo. Has anyone ever used Twisted Fate, Vladimir, or Karthus? Watch as Gragas' mobility is negated and ignored, or his combos decimated. Countering him is a breeze: hes a melee with a predictable and avoidable skill shot as his bread and butter. The key is to obstruct him combination or win the other lanes.
Deletehttp://www.lolking.net/champions/gragas®ion=all&league=platinum#statistics
I believe they are nerfing his ult by 20 seconds per rank in this coming patch, that what pbe players posted
DeleteThe worst part about dariu ulti id that if you get alot of kills with it in every teamfight your ad carry and mid wont be getting much gold
DeleteDarius is a strong champ vs some champs, but other champs crush him. Just must know, the counterpick. I play AD Sion vs him, and with the stun and the ulti Darius have a very bad game.
ReplyDeleteIn other hand, try to watch some streams, or ranked games in lol where someone play Darius and maybe you can see how to counter.
Rengar,Renetkon,Irelia,and Olaf all counter him with ease
DeleteRengar and Irelia ... please
DeleteUdyr i all times couter Darius whit it
Deletesounds like less of a "counter" to darius and more like you were just playing against some bad darius's. I agree his ult is strong but he is easily beat. Its you guys who think your just lol gods and should never lose that stand infront of him and let him beat on yall and cry after your heads gone saying darius op i couldnt beat him with my rightclick QQ....I like what riot said CHANGES not buffs is all he needs. The REAL problem with darius and the only one that should really be fixed is that he REQUIRES getting kills when you should not be pumping your top lane full of them but in fact should be feeding your ad cary, the pillar of the current meta. Daruis' ult was ment to give him a strong and competitive lanning phase, which it does, but in team fights it is frustrating and counter intuitive to not use your ult to farm kills and let your ad carry do what it does. playing as darius and against him this is the number one problem ive seen. Darius ruins late game for his team because he has all the kills and therefore items and ANYONE can be focused down by a whole team so darius' support crumbles underneath him. I smile when i see a darius on the other team for that reason, also why he is not played in high elo/ranked. Very much less to do with him being OP or counter able.
DeleteWell they have overnerfed graves so hard that vayne is now the #1 top adc in my opinion graves currently is better than vayne early game but end game she wins over most adc's thank to how graves is getting even more nerfed she'll win over the early game against him more than likely and im sure riot wont stop there im sure there are more graves nerfs to come
ReplyDeleteVayne has the lowest win rate of all ADC in high elo so im inclined to say your full of shit, if you think 10% off graves quick draw is suddenly the worst thing ever.
DeleteHeaven forbid a champion with a dash, 3 nukes, natural tankness and an above average AD per level happens to have a weaker attackspeed boost oh boo hoo.
^ thank your sir for your common sense and reasonableness
DeleteI've always felt that Vayne has a low winrate because there are many people that play her like an AD Caster, building huge amounts of early AD and trying to burst people down. Perhaps if more people tried to build around her amazing W, then they'd do better.
DeleteBut that's just my opinion, I'm not "high elo" by any means.
wait wait wait!
Deleteso your telling me people build vayne with large AD but no AS?
maybe im crazy but im pretty sure any vayne player worth their salt builds her with AS in mind
Why still no Jax nerfs? He is the most OP melee in the whole game...
ReplyDeleteNo.
DeleteYes. Just name one who carries his team stronger than him. You can't.
DeleteAll comes down to team comp
DeleteJax works only in specific team comps
DeleteAll comes to team comps and jax works only in specific team comps + easy to counter him
Deletewhat about nasus? he carries every lategame
DeleteNasus? Are you serious?
DeleteI am inclined to agree with above... Just no.
DeleteI dont like bitching in LOL and usually keep to myself, but when some one on my team picks nasus i smash insults likes its my native language. I dont care if you have done good, will do good, or are good with nasus he is just a trash pick right now. A champion designed around not helping his team and instead farming? No thanks. Nasus was my favorite champ when i first started playing because exactly what you said, he wins late game. But then i played more and got better. Try going against anyone who is not half a tard and getting the farm you require without letting your team die over and over in mid game because you werent there. OFcourse some guys can play nasus and nasus still does ok with most teams, but there are WAY better picks.
DeleteTo clarify the above two, late game nasus is indeed a monster, but surviving long enouph to benefit from it is just not realitic. Nasus has poor matchups and is highly farm dependant, wither and armor shred is all he brings if he cant farm his Q a few hundred times. And even 90 minute 300 CS, 6 item nasus is still easily kited.
DeleteAnyone know the exact new range on Evelynn's detection now?
ReplyDeleteI don't know what it is now, but it was roughly = to Cait's AA (625) pre buff... I can't see it dropping below 600 AA (700 cast) range at most.
DeleteFrom what I have seen on the PBE the range hasn't changed, there is just a grace period when getting within vision range
DeleteLooks like its animus ult range, much like the new abyssals range
DeleteAaaaaand another new Champ ruined thanks to noobs whining. Diana is now completely useless.
ReplyDeletehow is she ruined? she's been picked in nearly every match i've seen as of late, she can clear jungle really well with her W, her ganks are quite decent with the range of her Q and how her R resets on use on moonlight-ed enemies so getting away from her isn't all that easy, they've not nerfed her too much so it's not like she's now gonna be unplayable.
DeleteYou should learn how to play before you posting something like this. Diana was too strong. And i dont think this Q nerf will ruin her. But yeah.. she will be useless in your level 5 account...
DeleteOMG L2P and stop trashtalking... this community ruins everything...
Diana has been banned from use by the organizers of IPL, MLG, and season 2 NA regionals just saying...
DeleteBecause making her team able to start a team fight 10 seconds earlier will matter. Thank you, Riot, you truly know how to balance things.
ReplyDeleteOP EVE HERE SHE COMES!
ReplyDeletenunu just destroys graves now :(
ReplyDeleteNunu destroys everyone soo no problem, they are lowering the snowball duration on the PBE so just give it time.
Deletei think its ok...
ReplyDeleteSo Lux nerfed again, cool ... not.
ReplyDeleteuh.... what?
DeleteHe means by the abyssal nerf, now she wont be able to buy the item for its aura- before they spell range was about the range on her q
DeleteIt's funny how people here whine about Ezreal's buff when they are defending Darius so hard...
ReplyDeleteEzreal=learn to aim and calculate the enemies' next move
Darius= go in and press Q after that press R 5 times
But there are some serious changes needed...
Darius: okay refreshing ult... BUT REMOVE THE FUCKING TRUE DAMAGE
Lux: the fuck is that range? (omg noob igor cant play lux so we shall buff her so hard she requires nothing but.... but... well... nothing)
Fiora: seriously what the fuck? double dash? if you want to win a game just get 2 Tiamats and you're done
Teemo: THE SO CALLED SCOUT, remove the damage from the mushroom or just limit the number of shrooms on the map
I find this comment highly amusing.
DeleteEz was press W and win bottomlane no skill involved there - Simply gimp every initiate with W or remove all counterplay when initiating yourself. As a Ez player I can tell you how it is for sure.
Darius problem is not the true damage - You can build health against it easy as that. The problem is the frustration it creates by giving out pentakills easily if used well. Damagewise he's not strong nor weak.
Lux has most of her damage centered in the ult. Get a champion with a dash or blink, buy movement boosts, whatever - Dodge her ult and hop on her and she'll die in a second.
Fiora doesn't see too much play as she's easy to counter - You read right EASY. She's like Yi but without slow immunity but double dash instead. Same way to counter both, silence, stun, ignite for ult... Tiamat splash range is really small so tell your team to space out a bit - If you really stand that close to be hit with Tiamat splash you'll have nightmares against AoE comps with vlad, amumu, galio, fiddle, etc.
Teemo... counters autoattackers... Get something like Pantheon who can throw skills instead and buy oracles... His lategame will be weaker than other champs no matter what he builds.
Take those as advices, analyze your enemy and adapt to the situations. There's hardly anything which can't be countered in any way.
Cheers
You can't be serious with making Ezreal/Darius (or everything other you've mentioned) so white/black.
DeleteLike you realize how easy is his flux to hit, and how ridiculously fast mystic shot is. Compare this to other significant spells like both bindings, charm or most of single target viable aoes (lay waste on karthus, orianna spells, etc.) the only thing Ezreal (or Kennen) has to care about is not hitting something in middle.
Darius might be dumb, but it's not like most of other bruisers are not the same keyboard facerolling with right click on top of it.
LOL ENDLESS qq ABOUT DARIUS...
ReplyDeleteIts the same 2-3 guys conplaining in every single article, like tryndamere back in beta, and evelynn in season 1 there exist champions that function poorly in competitive organized teams, they feed on the disorganized chaos that is low elo solo queue generating a ton of QQ
DeleteReally small teaser 'bout futire champs from gypsylord "Shes being working on"
ReplyDeletePanda Teemo's mushroom. lol
ReplyDeleteOP pyramids!!
ReplyDeleteThey're actually rice dumplings o;
ReplyDeleteNo point for long range casters to get an Abyssal now :/
ReplyDeleteThere's still sorc boots and spirit visage for slat pen + get a jungler that actually builds abyssal and is able to initiate. That aside: Void staff.
DeleteWhere is your god now?
Still waiting for the Karma rework... ;/
ReplyDeletewtf...hp regen nerf in dianna???nice nerfing :/ ....as for ez too high mp for the skill???what about ww or other players???have u ever asked what the fans want nerfing or buffed??riot pls die....
ReplyDeleteA lot of good things are coming in this patch.
ReplyDeleteI really feel that this is a good balancing patch.
A little sad about Diana but I recognize that her Q is too strong
ok Darius its op just because he can ult 2 or 3 player in a row.. but still easy to counter and its not taht often picked, ez nerf on his w its quite hard i think that w it what made him a high nightmare, corki nerf on valkyrie THX GOD FOR THAT now can be focused more easly at least, grave well dunno ive never played against a good graves soo dont know and diana´s q nerf was needed her q can poke u you to death in mid and u will fell the pain in those poke and for eve well no eve player im a i soo dont know but i think it a bit more what she needs, eventhough i still think she need a bit more reduce vision area for that type of stheal... srry for my english
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