More on the S3 Item Overhaul, Champion Remakes, and Features

Posted on at 8:59 PM by Moobeat
Hey there, how you doing? Have a rough day at work/school/nothing? I suggest you just sit back, relax, and enjoy a nightcap of red posts.
Continue reading for a grab bag of posts from Morello, detailing a few things they are aiming for with the upcoming item rework and which champions are up next for ability reworks, as well as several posts from rjcombo about features such as the ranked ladder, VOIP, and achievements.



Let's start off by looking at a post, from Morello, about what support players can expect from the upcoming item overhaul.
"We are adding a lot of support-oriented items with this in mind, though, and alternate ways to get gold (cool new mastery for supports inc...). I actually don't mind zero CS - I mind that support don't get gold that they can use to buy cool items. That is what we'll fix here.

Zero CS is needed to keep support viable (it's actually always been the optimal way to play, players just didn't have that down pre S2), but they get to do a lot of other interesting things in lane like harass, peel or set up kills. Making the lane fight for CS is inferior to that."
He also commented about diversifying the starting builds and moving away from the boring standard of Boots + 3 HP bots, saying:
"Definitely looking at this - we'll be getting away from same starts."
Additionally, he remarked they are aiming to make Attack Speed / On-hit builds ( think Malady + Madred's Blood Razors ) viable, saying:
"Actually yes - we're trying to make that a viable build."
Fielding a question about which ability rework we might see next, Morello shared that Karma and Heimerdinger are the current focus, saying:
"Some priorities have changed, as is normal, but right now our rework focus is Karma and Heimerdinger. Might revisit Kayle at another point.

And none of these will make progress till after Season 3 changes go out./"
Continuing on that train of thought, he dropped just a little status update on the Heimer remake, saying:
"Xyph is working on an overhaul, but nothing to say beyond that yet. Will still be a bit."
Furthermore, Morello dropped off a response to someone curious to why it takes so long to complete reworks and why Riot doesn't just divert other designers to help clean up the champions who need it the most.
"This is because resource allocation is very complex. I'll give you a fast answer about it here though

Essentially, the design resources aren't as tough to get, but if it requires art (Katarina, for example) those resources are tighter. Additionally, one designer is all a project needs (and more in many cases is damaging) - IronStylus put it pretty eloquently when he said "no matter how many mothers you throw at it, it takes nine months to make a baby."

Testing is actually the tougher thing, which we have separate environments for. Balancing the game actually isn't more work per champion released, just requires more sophisticated analysis. So things like Season 3 do impact reworks, but new champions really don't effect it - we just hired enough people to do both (since champions are cool and important too). We actually just added more to a "reworks team" also to increase this output.

Could we do anything faster if we literally dropped everything and only did that? Sure, but the cost/benefit of only doing that would be pretty silly. Game development is all about this kind of thing."
rjcombo, Riot's lead features designer, made mention that Riot will be aiming to improve the ladder system, although unclear whether he means something new all together or just an implementation of the ladder into the game client, as it's currently only available by going to the LoL website. He says:
"I did reveal several features we're actively working on in an earlier post in this thread, but one thing I forgot to mention is ranked play. We aren't satisfied with the current state of the ladders, and will be making improvements to that aspect of the game."
Likewise, also shared his thoughts on a built in voice chat feature for League.
"We've done some research on this and are not convinced native VOIP is highly valuable for improving the community experience, especially when the players communicating are strangers. For players who are familiar with each other, there is already a host of great 3rd party solutions for voice.

That's not to say we'll never add VOIP to the game. It's just not a high priority."
 He also spoke very briefly about the a possibility of seeing an achievement system in S3, saying:
"It's unlikely we'll have achievements for the start of Season 3, but maybe during the season. I can't make any promises. What I can say is, if we add an achievements system, we'll be very focused on making sure players aren't encouraged to do silly things to earn rewards"

120 comments

  1. AnonymousOctober 15, 2012 at 9:02 PM

    support items, cool

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    6. AnonymousOctober 15, 2012 at 10:30 PM

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  2. AnonymousOctober 15, 2012 at 9:02 PM

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  3. AnonymousOctober 15, 2012 at 9:04 PM

    "He also commented about diversifying the starting builds and moving away from the boring standard of Boots + 3 HP bots"

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    1. AnonymousOctober 16, 2012 at 12:12 AM

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    3. AnonymousOctober 16, 2012 at 2:13 AM

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  4. AnonymousOctober 15, 2012 at 9:05 PM

    first

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  5. Eric ThaiOctober 15, 2012 at 9:11 PM

    great Kayle will get another possibly remake, what is this? her 5th?

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    1. JcyranoOctober 15, 2012 at 9:25 PM

      the Important question is "will she be tagged as a Fighter, Pusher", be cause you cant consider Kayle as support, Lulu does Kayle's Support Job several times better, Kayle has a really nice Push and a fair harass, of coure I can be proved Wrong but 8 out of 10 Matches I've saw Kayle, she was acting like an AOE-Figther, and she did it Quite well, Im'm not complaining about his Function, I'm asking about His role-tag
      (Was I clear Enought)
      Thanks Again Moobeat for the Briefing.

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    2. AnonymousOctober 15, 2012 at 9:58 PM

      Kayle is female.

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    3. DarrenOctober 15, 2012 at 11:00 PM

      "Her role-tag"; Kayle's a girl... I thought that was establish when Riot finally placed boobs on her armor, because almost everyone thought she was a dude at S1 and before.

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    4. AnonymousOctober 16, 2012 at 12:07 AM

      personally, all these reworks to Kayle are getting annoying, they should just set aside some time and do a Complete Overhaul if there that dissatisfied with her, but personally i liked her b4 her recent change and i do believe they could have gotten her numbers right on that wonky passive she had. On the main side, glad they given some love to us supports, like almost every other time i was expecting us to be tossed to the side like a weak newborn pup to fend for ourselves.

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    5. Foodie EatalotOctober 16, 2012 at 2:40 AM

      Anyone remember the old blue, short-winged midget Kayle? Good old days, but yeah its really annoying.

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    6. AnonymousOctober 16, 2012 at 3:57 AM

      I like the current Kayle, solo top BEAST

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    7. AnonymousOctober 16, 2012 at 4:40 AM

      first

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    8. AnonymousOctober 16, 2012 at 7:41 AM

      the thing wrong with the kayle reworks is people HATE reworks for some reason, the original kayle rework came when shurelia still worked for riot, she asked the kayle community what they wanted changed, and they basically said "dont change anything fuck off" so naturaly she didnt change much of anything so kayle problems werent fixed. they need to suck it up and push out a real rework no matter what the vocal minority whines about.

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    9. AnonymousOctober 16, 2012 at 1:48 PM

      second

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    10. AnonymousOctober 17, 2012 at 6:32 AM

      will it blend?, that is the question*

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  6. UnknownOctober 15, 2012 at 9:15 PM

    KAYLE REWORK PLSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

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  7. AnonymousOctober 15, 2012 at 9:18 PM

    oh pls dont rework kayle...she is fine the way she is

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  8. xadeOctober 15, 2012 at 9:18 PM

    Nerf Sona? Nooooooooooooooooooo

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    1. Foodie EatalotOctober 16, 2012 at 2:43 AM

      It will be the cycle all over again. Nerf Janna, Nerf Soraka, Nerf Sona, Nerf Someone else. Buff Janna, Buff Soraka, Buff Sona, Buff Someone (probably Karma or Taric). You see what I mean? The recent Janna nerf started the support-buff/nerf death-of-all cycle again.

      (The order may be wrong...)

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    2. AnonymousOctober 16, 2012 at 10:14 AM

      I believe it was dubbed the Morellocaust.

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  9. AnonymousOctober 15, 2012 at 9:21 PM

    Yay, i am really happy about that rating system improvement, a lot of my friends got to gold, even platinum, i got to 1449 and dropped O_O Hope the janna skin counts from team ratings also.

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    1. AnonymousOctober 15, 2012 at 10:34 PM

      what improvement?

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    2. AnonymousOctober 15, 2012 at 11:34 PM

      Dude, don't get me started. 1499. 1499. Now 1410. Such rage.

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    3. AnonymousOctober 16, 2012 at 2:19 AM

      Depending on which server you play on, 1450 can be gold in solo/duo. I'm EUNE, 1450 is gold there. I carried myself in top, got stuck and kept losing the last match before gold. Eventually, I got into a match where noone wanted support and I just went along with it. Got my carry fed good as Nunu and finally hit gold.

      Point being, sometimes hard work will get you most of the way, but thinking outside the box and being flexible might be needed to go all the way.

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    4. AnonymousOctober 16, 2012 at 4:41 AM

      first

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    5. AnonymousOctober 16, 2012 at 1:49 PM

      second

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  10. AnonymousOctober 15, 2012 at 9:40 PM

    RETURN OLD KAYLE PASSIV BITHCHESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111

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    1. AnonymousOctober 15, 2012 at 10:22 PM

      The old kayle passive was so wrong in so much levels ... i felt like i was raping a woman in front of her child when i was playing top kayle ...

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    2. Foodie EatalotOctober 16, 2012 at 2:45 AM

      Dude, it was like you want your ally to die to gain health or something. I think it was called retaliation or something. Such troll and rofl-stomp cruel Kayle days. So da Sorrow

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    3. AnonymousOctober 16, 2012 at 3:35 AM

      ^this. And a recall animation for Kayle Yes plz

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  11. AnonymousOctober 15, 2012 at 10:21 PM

    22rd

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  12. Vampire's BlogOctober 15, 2012 at 11:20 PM

    Man, I only need one change: The Replay system :|

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  13. AnonymousOctober 16, 2012 at 12:01 AM

    CHANGE SIVIR !!!

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    1. AnonymousOctober 16, 2012 at 5:46 AM

      OMG YES, there is nothing about sivir that sets herself as a unique adc compared to the old siv, she used to be unique for her ricochet gameplay now shes just unique for her spell shield, her short ranged auto attacks and her two skills that dont really compensate for the short auto attack range. (her passive + w)

      I mean sure she has her boomerang, but thats been nerfed a few times and it is really just not something sivir have to depend on that heavily and her ultimate was nerfed too making it basically among the list of top 30 least benificial ultimates in the game

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    2. AnonymousOctober 16, 2012 at 8:49 PM

      I think sivir is awesome. Spell shield is unique enough.

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    3. AnonymousOctober 17, 2012 at 1:54 PM

      Noc has a similar spell shield, so not as unique

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  14. FukuokaOctober 16, 2012 at 12:04 AM

    Reading this at school finally something interesting

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  15. AnonymousOctober 16, 2012 at 12:31 AM

    Just wondering, did anybody see the TPA Press Conference after the win? Posted it here since it's unlikely people will notice it on any other post anymore.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fAcg3DUeGA&list=UUgTn_pDfIxkebu9IfG3GA6Q&index=2&feature=plcp

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  16. AnonymousOctober 16, 2012 at 12:43 AM

    If they don't like the idea of voice communication, why not add in the same thing as Smite. Diferent hotkeys make the announcer say something like for example Pressing V then F then 1 will make the announcer say missing top, V F 2 will make the announcer say missing middle and so on. That way people don't have to talk, people will actually HEAR the misses being called. It's better than having voice communication.

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    1. AnonymousOctober 16, 2012 at 2:21 AM

      I would dare say built in macros would be a better idea; press f1 for a quick "ss" in the chat (one click instead of four), f2 for "re", etc

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    2. AnonymousOctober 16, 2012 at 2:22 AM

      Abusing chat macros is visible in chat in tribunal and could thus get you b&, hence, no abuse :)

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    3. Foodie EatalotOctober 16, 2012 at 2:48 AM

      All they need to do make you insane is just spam the control for the voice setting. It me like "MiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiSiiiiiiiiiiiiiiing ToooooooooooooooP" or "MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMIIIIIIIIIIAAAAAAAAAAA TTTTTTOOOOOPPPP"

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    4. AnonymousOctober 16, 2012 at 4:41 AM

      first

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    5. AnonymousOctober 16, 2012 at 7:45 AM

      I LOVE THE VGS SYSTEM in hi rez games.

      tribes ascend chat system is so awesome

      maybe one day well all be happily spamming shazbot, in league a man can dream.

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  17. AnonymousOctober 16, 2012 at 1:28 AM

    Why is Jarvan in the picture? Was hoping they'd mention an Ultimate fix to make it IMPASSABLE :(

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  18. AnonymousOctober 16, 2012 at 2:04 AM

    3 HP bots
    it's
    3 HP pots

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  19. AnonymousOctober 16, 2012 at 2:04 AM

    A Trundle rework would be nice.

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    1. Foodie EatalotOctober 16, 2012 at 2:49 AM

      Okay, Trundle does need some assistance, but in all, his still viable in some situations and even sometimes in Ranked.

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  20. ZechsOctober 16, 2012 at 2:46 AM

    Please let one of these be support-focused wriggles-style item. Please?

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    1. Foodie EatalotOctober 16, 2012 at 2:50 AM

      i tried AD Alistar support with wriggles and it was quit effective...

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    2. HamengeriOctober 16, 2012 at 9:32 AM

      ^ Not gonna happen atm. They want to let u chose items u like, not items u MUST-HAVE. :<

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  21. ZechsOctober 16, 2012 at 2:57 AM

    Please let one of these be support-focused wriggles-style item. Please?

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    1. AnonymousOctober 16, 2012 at 4:41 AM

      first

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    2. AnonymousOctober 16, 2012 at 10:22 AM

      All they have to do is replace the AD/LS parts of WL to make it an anyone item... This will also help jungle caster champs, both AD, and AP.

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    3. AnonymousOctober 16, 2012 at 1:49 PM

      second

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  22. AnonymousOctober 16, 2012 at 5:46 AM

    Moobeat how did u get Lubu J4 skin ???

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  23. RavanOctober 16, 2012 at 6:04 AM

    On-hit builds aren't viable on all characters, but sure is a really strong build on Teemo, Kayle and Kog.
    Try teemo with merc treads, malady, wit's end, mallet, mardred, hextech/Guardian Angel. You can kill anything with this build at late game. And masteries at 9/21/0

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    1. HamengeriOctober 16, 2012 at 9:34 AM

      If they are cool enaugh, Diana will like them, too :)

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  24. awesomenessyOctober 16, 2012 at 6:26 AM

    Taric op

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  26. AnonymousOctober 16, 2012 at 9:31 AM

    THE RETURN OF INNERVATING LOCKET PLS

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  27. PsytrinOctober 16, 2012 at 9:34 AM

    Man, that achievements tab has been there for as long as I've been playing... (pre-season 1)

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  28. AnonymousOctober 16, 2012 at 10:39 AM

    GG

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  29. AnonymousOctober 16, 2012 at 10:52 AM

    first, the real first one

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  30. AnonymousOctober 16, 2012 at 11:44 AM

    first

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  31. AnonymousOctober 16, 2012 at 2:05 PM

    Morellos loving the supports right now... first he confirms another support by 2013 and now new support items and masteries. Fuck yeah! We supports deserve all this attention :3

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  32. AnonymousOctober 16, 2012 at 2:05 PM

    Morellos loving the supports right now... first he confirms another support by 2013 and now new support items and masteries. Fuck yeah! We supports deserve all this attention :3

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  33. AnonymousOctober 16, 2012 at 2:05 PM

    Morellos loving the supports right now... first he confirms another support by 2013 and now new support items and masteries. Fuck yeah! We supports deserve all this attention :3

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  34. AnonymousOctober 16, 2012 at 2:28 PM

    Safety, women and children first

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  35. AnonymousOctober 16, 2012 at 2:43 PM

    omg ap lulu

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  36. AnonymousOctober 16, 2012 at 2:52 PM

    wait so is karma going to be a viable support or a ap mid champ. i'm hoping for both

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  38. AnonymousOctober 17, 2012 at 3:04 PM

    IF anything they should add built-in voice chat to solo ranked games because at least in ranked people would want to be serious and work together more efficiently, especially during champion select people can quickly call roles and decide on strategies

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  39. Tyler BurkeJanuary 8, 2013 at 1:47 PM

    What a terrible reason for not having an in game voice chat. Of course people are strangers haha that is just the nature of video games and the internet in general. So many other games have voice chats, Riot is just too lazy (or greedy) to invest in something they know will cost them but significantly improve the game experience.

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