Redbeard, the VP of eSports at Riot, recently took to the forums to discuss what happened yesterday at the World Playoffs. The post is quite lengthy, so here is a brief overview.
Starting off, he acknowledged the harsh accusations of cheating and assured us that the mini map being visible will be rectified in the future.
"After two days of smooth sailing during the World Playoffs, Day 3 was disappointing. We’ve spent today investigating and reviewing the problems, and I’d like to go through and address some of the community’s big concerns surrounding yesterday’s issues.
In hindsight, the potential visibility of minimap screens for players was a mistake. Despite on-site referees, close monitoring of player cams backstage, and stage design that ensured players would have to turn more than 90 degrees to be able to catch a glimpse of the minimaps, even the possibility of unfair play was simply unacceptable. We’re taking steps to ensure the minimap screens are not visible to players."In regards to the cheating and the outages, here's a short recap of what was said about each match and some over all problems.
" TSM vs Azubu Frost
- Azubu Frost had microphone issues, which is why the game was paused.
- Both teams shifted bodies towards the mini maps, warnings were given to both teams.
- No other incidents during the match were seen.
World Elite vs Counter Logic Gaming Europe
- One player from WE was not facing forward during a game.
- They're looking through the footage but it's not currently seen as a mini map peek.
Other Issues
The outages during the matches that had to be restarted in the CLG.eu/WE games were caused by 1 power failure and 2 internet connectivity issues.
They're currently focusing on getting the scheduling down for the rest of the matches before the World Finals on October 13th"
In closing, Redbeard said:
At least we have a post from a rioter, Redbeard at that, that shows they are looking into the situation. If you haven't seen the photos, these are the ones currently in question:
"We’re trying to deliver an extraordinary experience for viewers, and yesterday didn’t live up to our goals. We’re going to take everything we’ve learned from the Playoffs and strive to make the remainder of the Quarter- and Semifinals, as well as the Finals, as great as we can make them.
In the long run, looking to season 3 and beyond, we’re always learning and we’re reading all your feedback and taking it to heart. We believe the most important concern here is about fairness, and we’re going to do everything we can to preserve that moving forward.
League of Legends as an eSport is young, and we’re learning a lot with each event. This is the run-up to our Super Bowl, and we’ve really been pouring our blood, sweat and tears into it. We’re as disappointed as you are that yesterday had so many issues, but we’re committed to improving, so that’s what we’re going to try to do."
At least we have a post from a rioter, Redbeard at that, that shows they are looking into the situation. If you haven't seen the photos, these are the ones currently in question:
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| Dyrus with his head turned after the pause during the TSM vs Azubu Frost match |
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| Azubu Frost with a players head turned during the game |
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| World Elite player with his head turned during the CLG.eu/WE match |
Redbeard posted shortly after with this comment about when the games will be finished out between CLG.eu and World Elite along with the semi-finals:
Furthermore, Redbeard established that player will be recieving a double IP day on the 14th of October, the day after the S2 World Championship Finals.
"That is still being determined, but we are aiming for Wednesday as the makeup date. Please know these events require a lot of setup and configuration, so the exact day is still in flux."
Furthermore, Redbeard established that player will be recieving a double IP day on the 14th of October, the day after the S2 World Championship Finals.
"We know the issues during the World Playoffs yesterday sucked. It was frustrating for everyone watching at home, and we feel that frustration. We’re taking everything we’ve learned from yesterday to make the conclusion of the Playoffs and the World Finals next Saturday as great as they can possibly be.
As a token of our thanks for your tremendous patience and dedication, we’re going to be giving out double IP for 24 hours after Finals, starting midnight PST on Sunday, October 14th.
Details on the conclusion of the playoffs are coming together and will be announced in the near future. Thanks for understanding!"
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ReplyDeletetsm fanboy
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DeleteWould you cheat if you could could get money for it and not get caught.
DeleteThis is a issue that extends beyond more then one team vs another.
And FYI I'm for Curse.
yeah, we are talking about 2 million dollars
Deletei would say, it is more or less riots fault to build the stage in that way
It is an issue of the stage setup as well as sportsmanship.
DeleteJust because you can use steroids and not get caught does not mean that you should.
In this case there is a pending factor of if Frost did cheat or not but everything does seem to show they likely did get information they should not have and exploited it.
TSM = Team Sado Maso.
DeleteReally?? they have them more or less RIGHT IN FRONT of the mini map showing both teams??
Deletewow, would have expected them to be in like closed off rooms or something.
ITs riot fault for building such false set. What can improve this situation? make a tiny room for each team to play so they can't peak at the big screen.
DeleteThat was just pathetic how they had to cheat to win and, really, stop being morons and blaming Riot for this. If someone leaves steroids next to you right before a fight or a race, do you blame the person that left it there or do you blame the athlete that used it?
DeleteTSM = Team Solol Mad?
Deletepeople are getting stupid... really... if you apply real world physics in that scenario, you would notice that the minimap screens are lifted on rafters placed roughly 1m or more above the main screen, and from that angle of AF, you probably would not see much as a high contrast screen... if you can't understand this try looking at your computer screen from a 45 degree angle from the side, you would notice at increase in contrast thus reducing visibility... and with that distance, would you really see anything? unless his glasses can see things far away... really people...
DeleteHe's asian. So they can.
Deletetsm gaylife
Deletequote: That was just pathetic how they had to cheat to win and, really, stop being morons and blaming Riot for this. If someone leaves steroids next to you right before a fight or a race, do you blame the person that left it there or do you blame the athlete that used it?
Deleteu blame both obviously >.> but looking as riot says "both teams got warnings 4 looking at the screen" i blame riot 4 the ppl beeing abel 2 look at the screen in the first place and who gives a fk about a warning if there is so mush cash on the line?
correct me if i am wrong but because the mini map is on the left for both screens is it not only visible from the red side? meaning TSM getting a warning would not make much sense considering it would not be visible
DeleteWoww... TSM cheating with dyrus, what cheaters omfg cheating cheaters cheats.
DeleteWhile I understand that AF deserved the win and that TSM knows this and accepts it, I don't find Redbeard's explanation of what happened in the TSM v AF game sufficient. It is clearly evident that AF looked at the map while it was still portraying the mini map, as oppossed to TSM looking at the map while it was black, during the pause. You can tell as AF pinged RIGHT where Xpecial was when they had no vision of them at the time.
ReplyDeleteAt least Dyrus admitted to looking while it was black, I haven't seen anything from AF yet and I'm dissapointed in the explanation Redbeard gave.
So the question is: How could Dyrus know the screen was black? Did somebody tell him or did he try to cheat as well and just wasn't succesful?
Delete^This
DeleteRegardless, he manned up.
Deletestill he tried to cheat first... fcking cheater
DeleteI'm just surprised everyone's surprised. People have, and always will, cheat in the major leagues because of the prestige and money on the line. No one will ever admit it (at least entirely; Dyrus) because that's just human nature. Just like you're never gonna tell you're boss why you were REALLY late if you just decided to go in late.
Deletetl;dr people will always cheat, everyone is at fault here, but RIOT is the least at fault
Dyrus looked up to confirm if the minimap was visible or not. He did this after Chaox spotted someone from AF with their head turned, and while Regi was talking to an employee about it (you can see in the screencap regi is talking to someone). The screen was black at the time and he was only doing it to confirm that the map is visible from the players pov.
DeleteProof: see dyrus reddit ama, regi vlogs
^ Is that a genuine post from a human being? Because if it is, said person does not deserve to exist ._. I'm looking at you human race, stop being dissapointing
Deletelooking to confirm if the screen are black? SERIOUSLY?
DeleteWHAT IF IT"S NOT BLACK? what happened then?
Riot desperately tries not to appear completely idiotic for putting global minimaps within view of players in a multi-million-dollar tournament.
ReplyDeleteMeanwhile, my 13-year-old self is arguing about screenlooking during a particularly intense game of Goldeneye on the N64.
To be honest, Azubu game wouldn't have changed anyhow you can do best of 10 and azubu would have won 8-9 of them easily, they were much better team overall, even if TSM would have gotten firstblood i doubt results would have been that different, they had the early game on game 2 still lost.
ReplyDeleteI just hope these things will be prevented on the upcoming venue so there will be no problems.
Azubu would not of had such a advanatage you must not know what first blood does to people mind set in high lvl competetion TSM is great on building advantages. Azubu has showed nothing impressive all tournament
Deleteshow nothing impressive? you've gotta be kidding me. Frost is pulled out most of the impresive play in the tourney.
Deletethey came back against IG.
They outplayed TSM individually and strategically. Countered Baron with 2 towers and almost 2 inhibi.
and they caught up agaist TSM game 2 after following on kill and gold for so long as well.
r u mad tsm fanboy?
TSM's whole strategy revolved around early game where getting that kill was a big part of it.
DeleteIf you can't adapt, how do you call youself pro?
DeleteAlso, they get first kill in game2, then what? Still lost.
True they wounldn't change the outcome but that's because of the picks and bans, maybe TSM had a better early game with first blood. But then they had to finish fast, because we all saw that AF had huge poke and TSM had like nothing for poking the only choice they had was iniciating... the only way to iniciate was to flash and w with karthus and then hopefully getting AD or AP carry cause in a straght 5v5 TSM team composition was better...
DeleteThey should've just blocked off the big screen and the pros on the stage...
fuck it what happend,just dont make another mistake RIOT i want 2 watch clear fight in next matches.And fix that steam i want to see whole fight not just start of it and then my screen freeze and next ting i see is dead champs,and then i destroy my keeboard or something becouse its finals and i miss it, and you wont pay for it,i am sure so do your job and stop spaming :P
ReplyDeleteThis. If you put a gigantic screen behind the players with all the information they need, it's like putting the answers to an exam at the back of the hall in neon lights.
ReplyDeletewhy is the minimap necessary in first place?
ReplyDeleteit's mostly for people in the audience, so they can look at it without trying to force themselves to death at looking at the small version of the camera of the action.
Deletesht is bout to get real........gg Azubu & WE........
ReplyDeleteGay answer Riot
ReplyDeleteits as if Riot WANTS teams to cheat
ReplyDeleteIs it so hard to get soundproof booths? Is Riot that cheap?
ReplyDeleteKorea does that. NA too cheap.
DeleteSoundproof are really expensive, Being an audio engineer I can easily say soundproofing a studio is where 75% of your money is going. It requires the whole entire encasing of the room to be covered with cinderblock and sand. Then you must actually create a box encasing of the outbound wires. Also you have to spend money on venting the air and if your going to have windows for the crowd to see its never going to get absolute sound proof. Its too complicated, Too costly and would require the live audience to be watching the players on a screen which just kills the whole live mood. Just remove the screens in viewing distance and work with noise cancelling headphones. The only thing they would be able to hear is a slightly muffled crowd and a very low amplitude.
DeleteThis. And maybe place the screens directly OVER the players heads so they cant see them? Simple really, dont give anyone an oportunity to cheat and everyone is happy. By the way, noise cancelling headphones work awesomely. They would still hear because of the mics, but loads better than nothing
DeleteI mean its not like it would be too hard to make a stage. High schools can manage setting up a thought out stage, i think a 2 million dollar prize pool competition should do fine
Even better, have the screens so they're behind the players. By behind I mean, the players are turned 180 degrees away from the screen and audience, and noise cancelling headphones. It would be so obvious, if you tried to get a sneak peek and if you did, all you'd get is the back of the screen. problem solved.
DeleteThe fairest fight would be one where all they can see is the computer screen in front of them and they can hear the game. That's it.
theyd probably see the reflection in their own screns if this was the case and then how would you know?
Delete>_> Dyrus was looking up at the screen that had Phreak on it..if ur gonna post a pic be clear to what its showing and not trying to give false pretenses...ty
ReplyDeleteHow could he know what was at the screen ? He shouldn`t have done this anyway.
Delete>_> Dyrus was looking up at the screen that had Phreak on it..if ur gonna post a pic be clear to what its showing and not trying to give false pretenses...ty
ReplyDeleteRules state that you must not look at the screen AT ANY CASE. How could he know what's on the screen?
DeleteWhy does saying one side did something wrong make you a fan of the opposing side?
ReplyDeletePeople like to rage.
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DeleteDyrus was looking only when Regi was telling one of the guys about how you could see the minimap so he was checking what was going on.
ReplyDeleteFrom what I heard AF looked at the map and pinged a warning, AF mic issues, game paused (screen gets blacked out), Dyrus looks at the map (apparently to see if AF could see them) while Regi wants to get a restart. Not saying what I believe just what I heard.
ReplyDeleteEither way, AF looked during the game and pinged while Dyrus looked while it was paused and blacked out, I think there's a big difference. Not that it really mattered.
But then again there's that whole butterfly effect doohicky thing.
Ever thought that they maybe pinged, because their mics didnt work? Everybody is ignoring that azubu pinged 3 different locations before that one.
DeleteBut one could easily say that they pinged all those locations to make the ping on top less suspicious.
DeleteYeah what the fuck... 2 million dollars prize pool and this shitty stage, in a game the narrators had to lower their voice so the players wouldn't listen to what they were saying (this happens if it's too silent)... not to say the server issues... what the fuck Riot, why do I even spend my money with skins if you won't take this seriously!
ReplyDeleteabout the ping & AF player turned head to the screen, i don't see any game changer situation there.. AF players were all scattered, and took about 15-20sec to gathered (if they planned something) while within 15-20sec TSM could be anywhere.
ReplyDeleteeven with or without looking @ mini map, i think AF deserve the win because they're more solid team and have better teamwork and focus.
i want to know who at riot thought it was a great idea to have the mini maps on big screens clearly visible to the opponents and say "now don't look at them or you'll get a slap on the wrist"
ReplyDeleteAnyway my personal opinion, the best team (this is World Championship - they're the best from all continent right?) should've could overcome any problems even if enemy cheat or not. if TSM lost just because AF player look into minimap once, they deserved to lose the game..
ReplyDeletei Watched all AF game, in some games AF getting killed early giving enemy 1st blood, and some game AF enemy doing pretty well, but somehow AF could turn the tide.. solid teamwork and good focus win the game not turning the head to the screen.. lol..
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DeleteI know i'm right :D
DeleteDamn wrong. The game must be fair no matter what the skill levels of each team are. It is obvious that Azubu played better and they probably would win the match anyway, but forbidden beahviors are... well, forbidden. Even for the best ones.
DeleteFirst thing you must blame riot for this stage , you want to force player to not move his body his head and super glue it to face the screen.
DeleteHe maybe faced the screen unintentionally.
What a sore loser, NA community as a whole.
ReplyDeleteLost outright. Got outplayed, outclassed, and countered in every way, both individually and strategically.
Couldn't you even man up and accept the fact that you were just simply not good enough? Instead of casting doubts into fans and accusing he winner with 1 pieces of 10 pixel photos
^thank you ... Too many TSM Fanboys
DeleteTSM did do this. In Reginald's recent vids, he comes out and says that they lost the game, and would have, but that AF's pause and actions seemed shady.
Deletedon't even let me get start on Regi.
Deleteoh we lost, but that pause,
oh don't blame them they deserve to win but I think they cheat,
I dont know what happen but they pause,
they are better but I think its shady..
on and on
The NA teams got rocked, true. There was cheating going on in these games, also true! The thing is that the allegations of cheating were confirmed by actual Riot staff that worked the venue, and not made up by players with a bad case of the post-game rages. If both teams were caught in the act then they should both be called out and punished.
DeleteThe phrase "TSM fan boys" kind of baffles my mind. The majority of TSM is absolutely insufferable, I didn't think there they had that many die hard fans.
the tsm photo doesnt make any sense seeing that it was during a pause and they havnet even spawned yet
ReplyDeleteNo matter what happened, the players shouldn't have been given the chance to see the map. Riot knows they made a mistake, the players know their mistakes, now lets move on.
ReplyDeleteDouple IP for 24 hours after world finals! Could be longer but eh...
Also did anyone else want to take the pic of Regi pointing at the minimap and add "Ze Plain!" captions to it?
Deletei guess u could compare it to steroids aswekll. if som1 does it every1 does. but i rly hope esports wont start to be so crap as real sports where every1 cheats. actually i didnt even notice that peeking until that som1 with rly good eyes did.. i hope they change the setup of stage to just to be sure.
ReplyDeleteI dont even see why we need rly those minimaps anyway since we got great commentators... dunno if it would work to block minimap screens from side so that audience can still see it but not teams from side. or maybe just change place of minimaps havin ur teams minimap on opposite, it wouldnt be any use lookin ur own minimap from big screen.
Prob they forgot about that.. lol
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DeleteTSM is asian too.......moron
DeleteTSM is a North American team though, not an asain team which is likely what he was referring too.
DeleteThey should get disqualified!!! If the olympic athletes are not allowed to cheat, so they should too. Riot is failing badly...
ReplyDeleteAlso, even at our small national tournament the teams were behind closed doors, so they couldnt see or hear anything but their team...
There are shots where you can see all the players on one set team and also the screen, and the screen looks black, so I doubt they had good visability on it. But the two screens on top of both teams showing the minimaps..
ReplyDeleteIs riot serious with that? Really?
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DeleteIt actually sounds cool to me, way better than "Johny123" or sth like that
DeleteAfter looking at a number of replays and rewatch the entirity of the matches, I am absolutely certain Azubu cheated but, the problem is that there isnt any hard evidence(Azubu could easily say they had a stiff neck or something).
ReplyDeleteThe screenshot of Dyrus tilting his head, the screens are off and they had already decided a rematch.
Why dont the put the teams directly inline on either side of the big screen? Or move the screen foward so they are looking at the side of it and not the front?
ReplyDeletewhy does it seem no one can keep a level head about this. Im seeing a lot CAPS lock rage and conspiracy theories about the chinese attacking the internet to kill the servers and whatnot.
ReplyDeleteI dont really think there is enough proof to say one thing or another, and there are certianly arguments to be made that defend the player that no one seems to be considering.
At least riot if fixing the problem for the next event.
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Deleteon the WE/CLG.EU, WE is on the red side and the red side is placed on the right side of the stage... and if you look to the right while your on the red side, all you would see are stage people, the lights and the cameras, how is that cheating? think clearly before accussing people.
ReplyDeleteIt's all a little bit daft really. Sure, Riot probably could've designed the stage a little better to avoid the temptation of cheating. Similarly, most of the teams that have so far competed have managed to avoid that temptation. In my opinion it's all being blown a little bit out of proportion. I'd say everyone learnt from their mistakes and S3 will be better as a result of S2's cock ups.
ReplyDeleteThanks to Caucxican on the LoL forums for posting most of these evidence pics
ReplyDeleteDoes it honestly even matter who wins? You're not getting any of the money. As long as the game is entertaining, that's all you should care about.
ReplyDeleteCan someone for fuck sake tell me how it is possible to cheat? why they dont have 3-4 minutes delay between real play and spectate in those tournaments like in normal spectator mode? that will be just impossible to cheat like this... trolololo!
ReplyDeleteAnd why everyone complaining about 24 IP boost on sunday? riot giving it for nothing, you had servers available and playable so theyre not supposed to give you something. Ungraceful and egoistic people... good old times 2 year before... only kids and idiots in this game now... F2P game and everyone is ungraceful....
Ur just stupid. Dyrus was looking at the current map, not delayed. He was peeking though.
DeleteThere is something i don't understand , is not the screen shows the match -2 minutes ? , which mean the screen doesn't show the current time they play in , so what is the point to know where the enemy was 2 minutes ago ? , its rare that the enemy will be in the same spot.
ReplyDeleteCan't understand what ur saying ur talking jibberish
DeleteDuring the live event there was no delay.
DeleteIt so easy to cheat in a match my friends were on teamspeak they wer plaing a ranked match five playing and one spectating to signal when a gank or bad thing happens
ReplyDeleteTry actually doing it some day and you`ll see why it`s impossible.
Deletehttp://www.twitch.tv//riotgames/b/334537601?utm_campaign=archive_embed_click&utm_source=
ReplyDeleteEvidence of Azubu Frost cheating @ 6:25:25`35
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Damn that kid is cheating at champ select.
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ReplyDeleteEveryone chill. Whether or not they cheated, the ref hasn't blown the whistle and you have to accept that.
ReplyDeleteWhether they did or they didn't cheat, it's not up to you and it's not your call to make. I'm sure none of you know the full story and all the details, or even the POV from where they were seated, so you can't make a completely informed decision as to what exactly happened. You just have to trust that Riot can. It's their tournament at the end of the day.
So chill the hell down everybody.
Also, no-one complain about 'steroids' and cheating. Sure if a player cheats that is bad sportsmanship, it's wrong. It's not helpful however to dangle a cheat right in front of them, in such a high pressure situation. The temptation to not fail is pretty high especially with how many comments you all post with 'X team disapointing, so crap this tournament, complainmore, used to be good, stuff like that', and not everyone will have the integrity to stay clean with such pressure from fans AND for the prize.
On the bright side, we get IP boosts for the inconvenience which is nice
DeleteOn a Monday, where most players either have jobs or school...tell me again why they didn't just give out the 10-win ip boosts like they usually do? -.-''
DeleteThe correct answer is... MONEY!!
Deletesurprise!!!
It is on a sunday not a monday.
Deletei don't understand whats so hard about perhaps, at the very least, putting the players BEHIND the screens so there is no way of viewing it beside getting up out of your chair and walking forward into the crowd.
ReplyDeletethe best solution would be to have them in separate rooms, but if they wanted them on stage that badly, it wouldn't have been hard to do SOMETHING more.
putting the players behind the screens, or even simply boxing off the computer play area so that only the front is opened for the crowd to see the players would have been much better than the setup they had.
If you have some honor you simply don't look. Ferus!
ReplyDeleteI WAIT TOO MUCH FOR THIS TOURNAMENT, AND THEY THINK the DOUBLE IP CAN FIX THE BIG MISTAKE...
ReplyDeleteBy buba thenokiller
The match wasn't even started when Dyrus was looking up. Really go back and look and you'll see that saying Dyrus was cheating is not correct
ReplyDeleteSimple fix: (two fold) put a makeshift roof or pavilion over player booths 1. Blocks out the "sun" which was such a problem.....(annoying) and 2. player look up and see nothing but a roof. WOW that was hard, and look at that! the audience and the cameras can still see the players just fine (cause you know thats why riot built the stage like that, to engage the audience and accommodate their fan fair. BLAMO! solved back to the tourney
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ReplyDelete"people are getting stupid... really... if you apply real world physics in that scenario, you would notice that the minimap screens are lifted on rafters placed roughly 1m or more above the main screen, and from that angle of AF, you probably would not see much as a high contrast screen... if you can't understand this try looking at your computer screen from a 45 degree angle from the side, you would notice at increase in contrast thus reducing visibility... and with that distance, would you really see anything? unless his glasses can see things far away... really people..."
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ReplyDeleteDoes anyone else think it is increadibly stupid to have the players in the open right next to the big ass screen where everything is displayed? They should seperate both teams from visiblity %100 no matter where they look from the main display for viewers and from the other team. If they had used a single smart bit of logic, riot would have done this. But nope, stupid move, If I was one of the competitors I would refuse to play until that glaringly obvious issue was fixed.
ReplyDeleteall they need to do is move the main stage tv a little closer to the audience, where the main stage tv blocks off team A and B from looking over to the other side. +1 for solution
ReplyDeleteeven reginald say azubu frost win that totaly won that game i dont know what are you arging for
ReplyDeleteThis is what I got to say:
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Blame riot, just put TSM and Azubu into a save room where they cannot see each
ReplyDeleteother, then the whole problem of cheating is solved
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ReplyDeleteIm korean so obviously i was rooting for frost. However i think the member did look at the minimap and pinged what he saw. I'm very disappointed that he did do that but i think it would'nt have made a difference. Im not hating on TSM but i think Frost was better that game and they deserved to win. I really think azubu should not have looked it kind of made me sad that he did that. I hope it wasnt Cloud templar hes my favorite. Anyways lets actually discuss this instead of arguing about who cheated, blaming riot (Even though i think they could've added more safety precautions) and just raging. I hope i dont get flamed for writing this but we should all discuss this instead of raging.
ReplyDelete-From a Korean who isn't pro XD
AF isnt a bad team and i am not a Korean nor XYZ type of player thing is when someone is caught cheating normaly you a) Disqualify them b) Rectify the behavior by giving a warning or restart the game c) Give a second chance to the team that was wronged. Now none of this happened no one of Riot came forth to set the score straight even if it was an error from the player Riot should have done something about it because yes it is there stage and crap that where set wrong.
ReplyDeleteTSM was the best team in NA i really doubt AF though they were piece of cake but that minimap thing might have changed the whole game and some of us will agree it might have costed the game who knows ? Facts remains someone cheated or didnt follow the rules ... The end like it or not facts are facts
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