Status update on Volibear

Posted on at 3:49 AM by Moobeat
As you may have seen, Volty has been poking around the forums looking for summoner feedback on the often overlooked Volibear. It's been a few days and he's finally returned with some grizzly plans!

Continue reading for an update on what's in the works for the Thunder's Roar.

Before we even move to the main post, you should heed Volty's warning of
"I want to also be really clear that this is just a plan for testing---none of this is set in stone or will necessarily see live servers.

But we are making progress!"
With that being said, here is Volty's full post about the current plan for Volibear.
"Thank you everyone who has contributed to the discussion! I really appreciate your input and especially the varying points of view.

So big update:

I talked to Morello today, we have a gameplan to move forward with into testing. All skills will remain in very recognizable forms, but with some significant changes aimed a solving some specific issues. Without disclosing all the details, these are the goals (and some of the solutions.)

- Avoid pitfalls of the fighter role, including binary performance entirely dependent on closing to melee. In plainer terms, we want Volibear to reach melee somewhat more consistently but not become massively threatening until he spends a little bit of time there first.
- Ensure jungle viability.
- Clean up scaling, probably by removing AP in favor of other stats. (Health scaling to remain.)
- R cast while moving, enough said.

I also discussed our approach with Live Design, who are enthusiastic about the direction.

I will try to get the changes into playtest soon, and will post more updates as I can."

89 comments

  1. UnknownDecember 20, 2012 at 3:53 AM

    :D

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  2. AnonymousDecember 20, 2012 at 3:53 AM

    Lol nice! He kinda needs this

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  3. AnonymousDecember 20, 2012 at 3:54 AM

    first

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  4. Kerwin CaballasDecember 20, 2012 at 3:56 AM

    i like the last change, now volibear's rolling thunder can finally have some lightning.

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  5. MongbanprinceDecember 20, 2012 at 3:59 AM

    I don't know but Voli seems to be underestimated on some servers, I dunno in NA perhaps, he seems very viable, and he's really strong in ranks whenever I play with or against him. ;/

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  6. MarreKDecember 20, 2012 at 4:00 AM

    i like volibear the way he is

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  7. HongkiatDecember 20, 2012 at 4:15 AM

    New Volibear skin WEARRRRRR???

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  8. xKillerGDecember 20, 2012 at 4:26 AM

    buff voli? WTF

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  9. cromazonicDecember 20, 2012 at 4:30 AM

    I think some of these reworks are just to get people playing some of the champions that are very much underplayed. I do see Volibear players, but not as many as say Teemo or Katarina. It's nice to see that Riot doesn't just brush champions under the carpet and that everyone is looked at.

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  10. LeBlancDecember 20, 2012 at 4:51 AM

    Looks can be deceiving...

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  11. ... ...December 20, 2012 at 4:59 AM

    seems fair, I like it.

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  12. BlitzcrankDecember 20, 2012 at 4:59 AM

    Dont let Voly rust... Ha - Ha - Ha - Ho - Ho - Ho

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  13. VOLIBEAR MUFASDecember 20, 2012 at 5:09 AM

    Volibear is op as fuck.

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  14. Daniel Casey ClarkDecember 20, 2012 at 5:10 AM

    Agreed, whenever I play against him he pretty much rapes.

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  15. lolDecember 20, 2012 at 5:16 AM

    i would wonder how a teemo rework would look.

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  16. lolDecember 20, 2012 at 5:24 AM

    i wonder how a Teemo rework would look.

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  17. OriannaDecember 20, 2012 at 5:32 AM

    I know what makes them tick, I know how to make the ticking stop

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  18. Spiro Balaur TasiosDecember 20, 2012 at 5:34 AM

    He has strong play but its not as rewarding as some champs and needs quite a bit of skill, Riot wants to move away from everyone picking darius/teemo top or kat mid, I think they chose a nice champ who doesn't need too much work to reduce this constant meta we have

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  19. simonhxcDecember 20, 2012 at 5:50 AM

    True

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  20. SteveblobDecember 20, 2012 at 5:51 AM

    I think a lot of Voli's current strength comes from the fact you play against maybe 1 in maybe every 100 games.
    With regards to the details themself; ensure jungle viability? I'm down for that, I used to love jungling with him when I first got in to the game and it would be nice to have him feel as powerful there as, say, Skarner.
    Oh and removal of AP, brilliant idea in my opinion!

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  21. Eternum NocturneDecember 20, 2012 at 6:05 AM

    We are one

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  22. AnonymousDecember 20, 2012 at 6:11 AM

    He only needs a hard cc ult like malph or amumu to be usefull in teamfights than you will see hin as much as other Champs

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  23. DravenDecember 20, 2012 at 6:20 AM

    Got axes , need victims.

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  24. giga_666December 20, 2012 at 7:08 AM

    CAST
    ULTI
    WHILE
    MOOVING
    Enough said, i'll love this bear even more.

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  25. Elói Monteiro Dos SantosDecember 20, 2012 at 7:16 AM

    I second that

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  26. Lindsay LohanDecember 20, 2012 at 7:24 AM

    whos volibaer

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  27. tfranklinDecember 20, 2012 at 7:57 AM

    I think it's more that if they want to progress this game in professional play to the next level they need more viable champions to open up more options for viable strats in order to keep the game interesting.

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  28. VolibearDecember 20, 2012 at 8:03 AM

    HUEHUEHUE

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  29. Chase HansonDecember 20, 2012 at 8:03 AM

    ... IMO, Volibear isn't that bad atm. I think Riot should focus more on some other reworks, like, say, Heimerdinger Karma Evelynn Twitch

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  30. VolibearDecember 20, 2012 at 8:05 AM

    VOLIBEAR ES NUMBER UNO
    There, I said it.

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  31. Chase HansonDecember 20, 2012 at 8:05 AM

    Ermagerd, a champ needing skill?! NEEDS BUFF NAO

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  32. Chase HansonDecember 20, 2012 at 8:07 AM

    And that is ridiculous. It is NOT just darius/teemo top and kat mid... How about Kassadin, Morgana, and Orianna mid, and Jayce, Gangplank, and now Vi top? All are extremely common, both in NA meta and in progames, such as the S2 Championships.

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  33. BaneDecember 20, 2012 at 8:20 AM

    We both know that I now have to kill you. You'll just have to imagine the fire!

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  34. BatmanDecember 20, 2012 at 8:22 AM

    You...

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  35. BaneDecember 20, 2012 at 8:23 AM

    So, you came back to die with your city...

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  36. qwerty asdfDecember 20, 2012 at 8:31 AM

    >Evelynn

    Wait, what?

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  37. VeigarDecember 20, 2012 at 8:38 AM

    Volibear has a slow jungle clear, even more with the new jungle. I like the changes =3

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  38. ChaosDecember 20, 2012 at 8:56 AM

    Not a fan of the reworks, as voli is my best champ and the rolling power that he has with a good build. He had perfect scaling in Physical , Magic, and Defense....

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  39. Chase HansonDecember 20, 2012 at 9:00 AM

    Look at her splashes.

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  40. DrugnutDecember 20, 2012 at 9:15 AM

    Truly

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  41. DrugnutDecember 20, 2012 at 9:15 AM

    Outrageous

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  42. Robert BurgerDecember 20, 2012 at 9:32 AM

    Power that scales with HP is stupid. Health is there for defence, not offence as well. Buying HP should be to tank up your defence and not your strength as well. HP-scaling forces build-strategies. I don't like it...

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  43. giga_666December 20, 2012 at 9:35 AM

    ...outrageous!

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  44. EliseDecember 20, 2012 at 9:36 AM

    Ah, the tangled webs we weave.

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  45. giga_666December 20, 2012 at 9:38 AM

    Ehm, getting a damage way because of getting more tanky is what makes a tank: Rammus and Malphite deal more dmg with more armor, Galio gets AP by magic resist (he's not a real tank, but pretty tanky), Sejuani deals more dmg with W if she has more max HP...
    That's what makes a tank being a tank.

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  46. giga_666December 20, 2012 at 9:39 AM

    I guess Voli's rework is more an "adjustment", it'a like a "little rework"; and they can do it pretty fast compared to carma and Mr Brainhair.

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  47. Joshua ScovilleDecember 20, 2012 at 9:43 AM

    I think Volibear is pretty good. Just about everytime I play him, I bite alot of heads off.

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  48. Tons of DMGDecember 20, 2012 at 9:43 AM

    The thunder!

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  49. disqus_t7QlHktZ6xDecember 20, 2012 at 9:56 AM

    сосите хуй педики

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  50. XerathDecember 20, 2012 at 10:12 AM

    Flesh and blood; so fragile.

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  51. Reaper7667December 20, 2012 at 10:32 AM

    You don't see Teemo or Kat? You must not be playing LoL, maybe your clicking the wrong game client.

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  52. CrercDecember 20, 2012 at 10:42 AM

    I hardly see voli at all, because of that if I am lanning against him (i like top!) I usually end up losing just because I misjudge/don't know how much damage his w does. Especially his early game burst is surprisingly high.

    I have started getting better though/more careful. And the last voli I played I didn't loselane, but I didn't win it either! xD. He wasn't even the worst voli I played either, so I think I am getting somewhere.

    But oh god voli's q is almost as scary as fiddle ult for me. I hate the sound of it

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  53. RumbleDecember 20, 2012 at 11:00 AM

    Hahahah

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  54. RumbleDecember 20, 2012 at 11:01 AM

    Hue hue hue?

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  55. RumbleDecember 20, 2012 at 11:02 AM

    This is not for u, is for us. It's funny for us. Then, stop ragin please.

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  56. Trent PettyjohnDecember 20, 2012 at 11:13 AM

    Vlad

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  57. Jorge MedinaDecember 20, 2012 at 11:17 AM

    Reading comprehension skills OP. Nerf pls.

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  58. Kha'ZixDecember 20, 2012 at 11:36 AM

    Change...Is good

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  59. The TerminatorDecember 20, 2012 at 12:25 PM

    wat

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  60. RumbleDecember 20, 2012 at 12:39 PM

    The bigger they are, the harder I hit them!

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  61. Mateusz ChyłaDecember 20, 2012 at 1:20 PM

    1st: I'm not raging. 2nd: It's not funny, it's pathetic spam.
    Say something funny but also smart as normal person.

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  62. Mateusz ChyłaDecember 20, 2012 at 1:46 PM

    Teemo top... I did not see Teemo at top..not a single time. BTW: I;m using Teemo at top, but I never saw other Teemo at top.. Maybe because I'm playing on trolled EUNE where it's rare to see single jungler.. (Blind Pick)

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  63. Mateusz ChyłaDecember 20, 2012 at 1:51 PM

    In other post I said I did not see Teemo at top at all (in normal games). But now i need to say I never saw Orianna in this game...never. I started using Orianna because of that. People playying against me don't know how to counter this tricky-magic-ball-thing. Really. And i saw Kassadin about 3 times (next champion I started using because of this reason).

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  64. RumbleDecember 20, 2012 at 2:12 PM

    You don't have to tell me twice

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  65. TalonDecember 20, 2012 at 3:18 PM

    Another Body for the gutter

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  66. TalonDecember 20, 2012 at 3:19 PM

    Let's finish this quickly

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  67. I_cant_believe_itDecember 20, 2012 at 3:58 PM

    somebody shat in their brainz.

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  68. Gentlemen Cho'GathDecember 20, 2012 at 4:03 PM

    I say! Perhaps he may be bestowed a more, how shall I say, Enamored appearance. Such shabby steel plate mail, I'd surmise the King of Bears not be so modest in his apparel.

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  69. Jericho SwainDecember 20, 2012 at 4:12 PM

    Cawcawcaw

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  70. Jericho SwainDecember 20, 2012 at 4:14 PM

    If you are not ragin, why are you talking with us? Go out.

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  71. Down with ZileasDecember 20, 2012 at 6:16 PM

    He needs to scale with Armor. Armored bears must rise up.

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  72. ViktorDecember 20, 2012 at 6:58 PM

    Needs Some HexTech Augmentations.

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  73. Mateusz ChyłaDecember 20, 2012 at 7:41 PM

    You're right. I'll not feed trolls anymore.

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  74. Kyujin LimDecember 21, 2012 at 2:57 AM

    finally a re-work on my favorite champ, voli

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  75. VoIibearDecember 21, 2012 at 3:43 AM

    I'm the true volibear.

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  76. VoIibearDecember 21, 2012 at 3:50 AM

    me!

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  77. VoIibearDecember 21, 2012 at 3:50 AM

    :3

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  78. VoIibearDecember 21, 2012 at 3:50 AM

    ikr

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  79. CalenordDecember 21, 2012 at 9:07 AM

    Same. I hope they won't shit on him just in order to 'smoothen things up'.

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  80. CalenordDecember 21, 2012 at 9:10 AM

    This game is starting to bump its head on the 'noob-friendly' tag a bit too hard

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  81. CalenordDecember 21, 2012 at 9:11 AM

    Hopefully Moobeat will do something soon. Even though it's been going on for too long already.

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  82. CalenordDecember 21, 2012 at 9:12 AM

    Vlad doesn't get half the DPS he gets by going AP if he buys HP.

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  83. Chase HansonDecember 21, 2012 at 9:49 AM

    How to counter Orianna: Boots of Swiftness.

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  84. Chipeez ChipaDecember 21, 2012 at 10:06 AM

    Hrm, not so sure about these possible changes.
    I would love to see Voli get some more viability love, but removing the AP scalings would cut in his build options, as there are some nice items that do come with AP...

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  85. Mateusz ChyłaDecember 21, 2012 at 12:23 PM

    You don't need to say me about this, really ;) I just told what it looks like when I'm playing Orianna. the enemy summoner is just staying away since my ball came from bushes. It's just because Orianna is rare to see champion like Rumble or Urgot.

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  86. TwitchDecember 21, 2012 at 5:11 PM

    Change can look deceiving.- Leblanc

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  87. Mateusz ChyłaDecember 22, 2012 at 7:27 AM

    With these comments from people using champion names? I send an e-mail to him, still waiting for an answer.

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  88. PiewrathDecember 31, 2012 at 3:54 AM

    You should pay more attention to what you're reading.

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  89. VolibearJanuary 4, 2013 at 7:31 AM

    Nope.

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